Anti Misfueling Gadgets

[zeersplat]

I am considering getting a misfiling gadget to stop me putting petrol in my diesel tank. Although I have had diesel cars for the last 20 odd years I still recon that if distracted at the vital moment I could end up with the wrong fuel in the tank. A friend of mine has just done exactly that and he is also a longtime diesel user so age related worry has set in . So a quick search of the internet reveals a few misfuel gadgets but do they work and would I be wasting my money.

[shipbroker]

I put 2litres petrol in dieseltank once. ..but as have been driving both since 1958 think I would do without such a gadget.

 

Geoff

[Jaydug]

I've been driving diesel cars since I got my Sierra (fitted with a Peugeot engine)in 1980. Since then I've filled with petrol only once. Injection being purely mechanical, I was able to siphon off a couple of gallons, brim with diesel and run the engine, keeping the tank well filled. Over the next ten years the engine didn't appear to have suffered. Now every time I re-fuel I check that I've got the right pump - then check again before pulling the trigger.

Edited September 24, 2017 by Jaydug

[Paul_B]

With a Ford you can't get a petrol filler nozzle into the diesel tank as it won't go in the filler hole

[OWOMW]

The fuel filler cap on mine is yellow - same as the colour scheme of diesel nozzles, so is a visual reminder.

Mine also has a misfuel shut-off device built into the filler neck and you need to hunt down the plastic reset device before you can add any more fuel, and remember how to use it.

[Griff]

My Discovery has a misfuelling filler neck with a rest tool, not put it to the test. ....yet!!

 

Did put petrol into my Fourtrak years ago but realised before starting it up and called the AA out.

 

Seen a device on the 'net called Fuel Angel, about 40 quid I think.

[Griff]

. . . . .Mine also has a misfuel shut-off device built into the filler neck and you need to hunt down the plastic reset device before you can add any more fuel, and remember how to use it.

Had to refresh my memory on how to use it owomw.

 

[Stevan]

My last car had one as standard, the wrong nozzle simply will not go in. It baffles me that they are not standard on all cars.

[OWOMW]

Had to refresh my memory on how to use it owomw.

 

 

That's a useful memory aid - I'd only seen handbook diagrams previously, which are fairly meaningless.

Also, not having had a petrol car for 15 years I hadn't realised petrol nozzles were narrower.

[Durbanite]

Is there a reason why in the UK you if you insert the nozzle and cannot click the lever into position and let it fill the tank before automatically clicking off when the tank is full?

[Stevan]

Is there a reason why in the UK you if you insert the nozzle and cannot click the lever into position and let it fill the tank before automatically clicking off when the tank is full?

Yes, safety! It stops the common problem of people driving off with the nozzle still in the tank.

[Durbanite]

Yes, safety! It stops the common problem of people driving off with the nozzle still in the tank.

I like to think that surely people in the UK are not that stupid? Anyway I thought you had to pay first?

[Stevan]

I like to think that surely people in the UK are not that stupid? Anyway I thought you had to pay first?

There are lots of youtube videos of people doing it (some horrific). Apparently, where pumps do this, people set the pump running and go to join the queue at the desk. By the time they get to the front, the pump has stopped and they can pay. They intend to take the nozzle out when they get back to the car but forget.

 

Never underestimate the stupidity of some of the public!

Edited September 24, 2017 by Stevan

[Pickled Onion]

I had a mis-fueling device fitted to my last car, I was doing around 35K miles a year so filling up pretty often. I put a large amount of petrol in my diesel tank noy once but twice within a few months of each other, that was enough. The device cost around £30, a fraction of the price of getting it put right.

 

My current Honda CR-V has one fitted as standard.

 

Dave.

[CommanderDave]

They could solve it overnight just by producing different shaped nozzles and filling points .

 

 

Just by changing the shape of nozzle say to a square for diesel and a oval for petrol and the female filling point in the car to match if then it would make it fool proof if the nozzle does not go in you can't refill with the wrong fuel .

 

 

Dave

Edited September 24, 2017 by CommanderDave

[JTQ]

Develop a culture to stop think and recheck before pulling the trigger?

Adds nothing to the weight or complexity.

[CommanderDave]

Develop a culture to stop think and recheck before pulling the trigger?

Adds nothing to the weight or complexity.

 

 

 

Well won't be long before we all will be getting confused with the type of plug at the end of a cable to refuel ?

 

 

 

Dave

[Johnaldo]

Yes, safety! It stops the common problem of people driving off with the nozzle still in the tank.

 

See here …

 

https://youtu. be/Mpzp01EBP-c

 

John

[Stevan]

 

See here …

 

https://youtu. be/Mpzp01EBP-c

 

John

I understand that it has also been known for people to start the pump running then get back in the car to collect their handbag from inside the car. They then go back to the hose and a static electric charge from their clothing and car seat discharges onto the handle and ignites the vapour.

[JTQ]

Well won't be long before we all will be getting confused with the type of plug at the end of a cable to refuel ?

 

 

 

Dave

 

I think I will cope, I have all my years travelling widely managed to recharge electrical kit in every country even every hotel I have ended up.

I do hope for electrical "refuelling" that just like refilling with our diesel and petrol that the various makers and distributors agree on a "standard".

[CommanderDave]

I think I will cope, I have all my years travelling widely managed to recharge electrical kit in every country even every hotel I have ended up.

I do hope for electrical "refuelling" that just like refilling with our diesel and petrol that the various makers and distributors agree on a "standard".

 

 

I don't think there is a standard at the moment for charging and type plug as manufacturers do their own thing .

 

 

 

Dave

[JTQ]

I don't think there is a standard at the moment for charging and type plug as manufacturers do their own thing .

 

 

 

Dave

 

That sits pretty much "par for the course" in the whole thinking about the infrastructural implications of this move to electrical powered vehicles However, IMO adopting a standard "plug" is not one of the biggest challenges we face.

[benfleetboy]

Iv'e got a Ford Galaxy and put petrol in the diesel tank, costly mistake. .

[thebriars]

Is there a reason why in the UK you if you insert the nozzle and cannot click the lever into position and let it fill the tank before automatically clicking off when the tank is full?

It turns out that the myth of mobile phones causing fires was caused by this issue. In the US where this is automatic fill is the norm, people were putting the nozzle in the filler, and leaving it to fill. Sometimes they would go and sit in the car and wait. Static electricity can then build up and when they come to remove the nozzle, a spark causes the fumes to ignite.

[Dobloseven]

I've been driving diesel cars since I got my Sierra (fitted with a Peugeot engine)in 1980. Since then I've filled with petrol only once. Injection being purely mechanical, I was able to siphon off a couple of gallons, brim with diesel and run the engine, keeping the tank well filled. Over the next ten years the engine didn't appear to have suffered. Now every time I re-fuel I check that I've got the right pump - then check again before pulling the trigger.

Sorry to be pedantic,but the Sierra wasn't launched until 1982. Unless it was a Dutton Sierra,a Ford Escort based SUV style kit car.