Guest Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Hi All. We are new to caravaning and have just bought our first, a Swift Charisma 555 07. A real do-er-uppa. It doesnt have any paperwork, but naturally we want to register it with CRiS. I have looked all around the windows for an identifying number that we were told is where we would find the number needed by CRiS, and could not find it. Can someone please help us with further info on how/where to find an identifying number so we can proceed with registering and insuring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnaldo Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Hi J & B, and The CRiS number on the windows looks like the one on this page . .. if there's one there, you really can't miss it. If there's none on the windows it may never have been registered (it's not compulsory) - or all the windows have been changed. Otherwise, you'll have to take out a new registration using the VIN number of the caravan to be found on the A-frame or chassis or a plate by the bottom of the door. John Edited April 16, 2017 by Johnaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravon42 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Normally, it is in the right hand side bottom of window . It is a dot matrix design. Quote 2011 Land Rover Freelander 2, Lago grey 2013 Freelander Dynamic Black, followed by a 2013 Elddis 574 Magnum GT white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrailman Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Have you tried insuring with out a chris number, perhaps you just have a chassis number usually found on the chassis A frame. Ps insurance is an option, not compulsory. Edited April 16, 2017 by xtrailman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Hi J & B, and The CRiS number on the windows looks like the one on this page . . . if there's one there, you really can't miss it. If there's none on the windows it may never have been registered (it's not compulsory) - or all the windows have been changed. Otherwise, you'll have to take out a new registration using the VIN number of the caravan to be found on the A-frame or chassis or a plate by the bottom of the door. John Excellent advice fella. Thanks. Normally, it is in the right hand side bottom of window . It is a dot matrix design. Thanks. Have you tried insuring with out a chris number, perhaps you just have a chassis number usually found on the chassis A frame. Ps insurance is an option, not compulsory. Cheers. A totally noob question, but where on the underside is the A frame? (Everyone feel free to laugh) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilisauce Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 You should have a plate next to the door with the CRiS number on it. It doesn't matter if it's been registered or not they come out of the factory with numbers on the windows and plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrailman Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Excellent advice fella. Thanks. Thanks. Cheers. A totally noob question, but where on the underside is the A frame? (Everyone feel free to laugh) The A frame is the area up front on the chassis (that connects to the car) https://www. caravanguard. co. uk/knowledgebase/touring-caravan-insurance/where-can-i-find-my-caravans-CRiS-or-vinchassis-number-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodentop Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 If it is on the A-frame it will be riveted on either behind the head or on one side, most usually the nearside. It should be clearly visible without having to remove any faring. Quote 2018 Passat B8 Estate 150GT TDi150 towing a 2018 Bailey Unicorn S4 Seville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4bill Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 If its a 2007 Swift then the Vin Nº is STAMPED into the chassis leg and can be viewed through a cut out in the A frame cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 If it is on the A-frame it will be riveted on either behind the head or on one side, most usually the nearside. It should be clearly visible without having to remove any faring. Thanks. Ive got a much clearer idea where to look now. If its a 2007 Swift then the Vin Nº is STAMPED into the chassis leg and can be viewed through a cut out in the A frame cover. Thanks. Ive got a much clearer idea where to look now when we go a pay the remainder on it, thanks to you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrailman Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 If its a 2007 Swift then the Vin Nº is STAMPED into the chassis leg and can be viewed through a cut out in the A frame cover. This is what I have had in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazy Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Hi. I have just bought a fendt 2014 caravan. Is it normal please for the vin plate not matching the numbers on the windows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagn8 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Have you bought two caravans, you just asked a similar question about a Hobby ‘van? No idea how Germany does it, but in UK all numbers on chassis and windows match. If they don’t then alarm bells should be ringing. Quote My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildwood Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, hazy said: Hi. I have just bought a fendt 2014 caravan. Is it normal please for the vin plate not matching the numbers on the windows I don't think Fendt are a member of the NCC who organise the vin scheme and therefore it will not have a vin number. This can be the position with several European made models. The caravan can be added if you contact CRiS. The scheme applies to caravan built from 1992 onwards, so older models will not have one, but you can still get one from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamdrivenandy Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Slightly misleading WW. The VIN numbering system is international and not administered by the NCC. However the NCC do run the CRIS system, which is unique to the UK and uses the VIN number to ID a van. All UK built vans are automatically registered with CRIS and their first owners logged via the selling dealer After that the system can fall apart if subsequent owners don't bother trying to register. The VIN no. is unique to one particular caravan, so windows with another VIN showing are replacements sourced from another caravan The van's VIN number, along with Type Approval code, MTPLM, axle and hitch weight limits should be on an exterior plate/decal, normally by the door. It should be easily visible for enforcement officers to see. If it has been removed/painted over you might need legal advice as to whether the van can be towed. Quote I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon but to settle down and write you a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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