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#41 xtrailman

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:12 pm

Yep.  Now as the weather is Rubbish.  Can we get onto more serious stuff like, "which is the correct end of an boiled egg to open it."

 

Have you tried Google for an answer. ;)



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Posted 13 January 2017 - 12:23 pm

Funny when I google cold bridge it comes up with it also called a thermal bridge. But obviously accuracy doesn't count much for some people.

Anyway lunch beckons I'm going to have one of those orange spherical fruits, or as I like to call them a Banana.

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 01:18 pm

According to the homebuilding.co.uk a cold bridge and Ill quote them https://www.homebuil.../cold-bridging/

 

"At its simplest, a cold bridge is a weak spot in the insulation surrounding a house. Cold bridges (also known as thermal bridges) occur whenever there is a break in the continuity, or a penetration of, the insulation. Examples of cold bridges include: Junctions between walls and floors, and walls and roofs"

 

What they the caravan manufactures need is a joint to prevent this happening (as in the picture from swift)


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#44 xtrailman

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Posted 13 January 2017 - 04:11 pm

Funny when I google cold bridge it comes up with it also called a thermal bridge. But obviously accuracy doesn't count much for some people.

Anyway lunch beckons I'm going to have one of those orange spherical fruits, or as I like to call them a Banana.

 

I always thought bananas were yellow.


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 08:51 pm

 
When i last checked the solid construction it still contained wood.
Why would anyone want a construction containing water absorbing materials?

So do Baileys!

 

The might make the walls without wood, but when the rain pours through the lousy roof join, it damages all the internal wooden cupboards and bed frames.


 

Thanks Davros, I expected this to happen. It's like asking what is best: Android or Apple and Garmin or TomTom.

 

Though I had very good feedback on what too look for. I guess damp issues will be more evident in a 3-4 years old caravan than in a newer one where all these issues start to appear gradually. If it was fixed by previous owner, then great!.

 

To be safe, I look for FSH caravans and, so far, the Bailey S2 Barcelona is winning (wife and sons) but I still like the Schooner. Unfortunately for them I'm the only one with a B+E. 

 

Well if you're looking at a Bailey, check to see if it has a roof join. All the rounded rear roof models have them, and they continue to leak, whether new or old.

 

Before anyone says anything there must be at least a couple of vans out there that haven't leaked through the roof join ........ yet.


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Posted 13 January 2017 - 10:16 pm

So do Baileys!
 
The might make the walls without wood, but when the rain pours through the lousy roof join, it damages all the internal wooden cupboards and bed frames.

 
Well if you're looking at a Bailey, check to see if it has a roof join. All the rounded rear roof models have them, and they continue to leak, whether new or old.
 
Before anyone says anything there must be at least a couple of vans out there that haven't leaked through the roof join ........ yet.


Mine hasn't leaked.

(And are you suggesting that some manufacturers make caravans without wood, including the internal furniture and bed slats?)
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Posted 14 January 2017 - 10:31 am

Nope, but I am saying that having non-wood supports in the side walls is not the whole picture.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:00 pm

Mine hasn't leaked.

(And are you suggesting that some manufacturers make caravans without wood, including the internal furniture and bed slats?)

Neither has mine or any of the people I know in the Owners club with Unicorn 3.  That some have is indisputable and not good.  It is a simple fix that should not be required.  

 

We will be asking some pointed questions at the show in an effort to get advice from the proper people as to how to proceed if you are concerned.  i.e. is there a case for leaving well alone or should we be insisting that it is taken apart and re done at a service.  

 

Far to much hearsay and conjecture, that grows into urban truth, because enough people say it, at present for this and many other issues across all makes. 



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 01:33 pm

The last "cold bridge" I read about was where the M5 crosses the Avon.
Apparently it was closed a couple of weeks ago due to ice.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:24 pm

Yep.  Now as the weather is Rubbish.  Can we get onto more serious stuff like, "which is the correct end of an boiled egg to open it."

Why did you have to muddy the waters with the old egg question?? The topic is now bound to skew round to dissing the Green Oval and Air awnings v traditional awnings.



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Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:43 pm

Why did you have to muddy the waters with the old egg question?? The topic is now bound to skew round to dissing the Green Oval and Air awnings v traditional awnings.

I plead guilty but insane M'Lord



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Posted 15 January 2017 - 01:44 pm

At the moment, I am putting my faith in Coachman and ABC (All Bonded Construction).

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:03 pm

At the moment, I am putting my faith in Coachman and ABC (All Bonded Construction).


+1

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:24 pm

To the OP, I have an alutech from Bailey. First one leaked like a sieve, second one seems okay so far.

It doesn't matter what you buy, they all leak and there is no reliable data as to what leaks the most.

My advice would be to get a good warranty, check it with a fine tooth comb and hope for the best. Above all, enjoy and don't worry, it is frustrating when they leak, but they can all be fixed.

Actually, we are asking a big deal for them to be waterproof (others will disagree), the amount of holes for aerials, windows, lights, hatches, connections etc....... Only takes one bad one to ruin your day.

Edited by John W, 15 January 2017 - 06:25 pm.


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Posted 15 January 2017 - 07:34 pm

What concerns/annoys me about the Bailey roof join is that it is avoidable.

 

"I am not an engineer" but even I can see that a join like that with minimal overlap for sealant,bounced about and twisted on our pristine road system is going to eventually fail even if sealant is perfectly applied which may not always be the case.

 

As it appears to still be present in the new Pursuit what hope is there for a roof leak free Bailey ?

 

Ian



#56 xtrailman

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 08:36 pm

Try a Swift next thats what i'm doing. :)



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Posted 22 January 2017 - 08:27 pm

I have a bone dry 10 year old bailey.

Nothing I have read here makes me want to change it.



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Posted 23 January 2017 - 09:52 am

Yep.  Now as the weather is Rubbish.  Can we get onto more serious stuff like, "which is the correct end of an boiled egg to open it."

O come on, now look what you have done.

 

kot

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Posted 23 January 2017 - 10:34 am

Look on the bright side, Trump is now up and running. :D





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