PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Can anyone help with our combination weight pass. Its got my head in bits!! My details are: Car Kerb weight 1445 Gross weight 1890 Max tow weight 1400 Train weight 3290 Now this is where my problem starts. My caravan is a 2003 Compass Rallye GTE 490/4L but i cant find any details on this spec of van! I can't check the plate because im no where near my caravan! Thanks people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumdrop Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Have you looked in the tourers forum, you may find more information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WispMan Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 The 2001 has a MIRO of 1106kgs but you really need to find the MTPLM of the van - tis on the plate and you have to go and find out. CT's caravan reviews does not include your model. It could be a bit close, methinks - but tis only a hunch! Apologies - in CT's caravan specs it shows the 2001 as being 1350 kgs MTPLM. And your max tow weight is 1400kgs. Graham Unless otherwise stated all posts are my personal opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravon42 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1340 kgs. 2011 Land Rover Freelander 2, Lago grey 2013 Freelander Dynamic Black, followed by a 2013 Elddis 574 Magnum GT white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Apologies - in CT's caravan specs it shows the 2001 as being 1350 kgs MTPLM. And your max tow weight is 1400kgs. Where did you find that. I couldn't find my van listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamdrivenandy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 According to the CC's matching website the Rallye GTE 490/4L was last made in 2000MY, there's nothing for that model in 2003. However as it may be that the model was introduced in 2000 and ran for several years at the same spec. I'll quote the weights which are MIRO 1030kg and MTPLM 1340kg. The only possible problem might be if the MTPLM has been upgraded by an owner and that will only be checkable via the plate if there's nothing in the paperwork. As it stands your van, loaded to its limit is within the towing limit of the car and if both are loaded to their limits it will be within the Gross Train Weight. A fully loaded van will be at 93% of the car's kerbweight, a bit over the 85% ratio recommended for inexperienced towing drivers. 1 I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon but to settle down and write you a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Thanks very much for taking the time to reply in such detail. I am not inexperienced at towing. I towed for years when i was young. Only now i actually care that I'm legal ha ha. Ill check the plate when i get a chance as im away worth work at the moment. Thanks again Edited April 18, 2016 by PA28Pilot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_B Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I can only find them listed up to 2001 http://www. elddis. co. uk/documents/Brochures/2001/rallye-tech-specs. pdf 1 Paul B . .......Mondeo Estate & Elddis Avanté 505 (Tobago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Its definitely a 2003, Ive checked the CRiS. This is the plate near the door. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Grouse Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 That confirms that it's MTPLM is 1340kg. 2015 VW Touareg 3. 0 V6 TDI + 2013 Lunar Clubman ES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamdrivenandy Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 If you've got that and the car figures you quoted, what else is it you're after? I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon but to settle down and write you a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Is it legal? Is it a good combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevan Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Is it legal? Is it a good combo? Your MTPLM is below your towing limit, and the GTW is below 3500Kg, so, provided you load within the limits you are legal whenever you took your driving test. As to whether it is a good match, there is nothing to suggest that it is a bad match. Some folk are very picky about the 85% thing, but there is very little, if any, evidence to show that it actually matters! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Great news. Thanks Stevan. Good to know. We're not really interested in changing our car at the moment as we like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Grouse Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Is it legal? Is it a good combo? It's legal - and as you've towed before it's an OK match - as long as it's carefully loaded as above with attention paid to getting the noseweight optimised - find out what the maximum noseweight is for your car and aim to get the caravan just under that. 2015 VW Touareg 3. 0 V6 TDI + 2013 Lunar Clubman ES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stillroaming Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) . ..with attention paid to getting the noseweight optimised - find out what the maximum noseweight is for your car and aim to get the caravan just under that. I assume you say this based on the fact the maximum caravan nose weight exceeds that of the car, or are you advocating ignoring caravan maximum nose weight and only working on the cars S value? IMHO you need to get as close to lower of the two. For example if the car is 125KG and the caravan is 100KG then you should be aiming for just below the 100KG mark. Steve Edited April 19, 2016 by Stillroaming Steve RR & BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamdrivenandy Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 You're right, of course, but from the car's weights it's not a 4x4 truck and therefore it's virtually certain it's noseweight limit will be under 100kg. I've got nothing to do on this hot afternoon but to settle down and write you a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_B Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 The year your caravan was manufactured will be etched into the vin number on the windows, see the link to CRiS explained on the forum http://www. caravantalk. co. uk/caravan-finance/buying/CRiS-explained Its not just the cars nose weight you should look at its also the towbars maximum weight Paul B . .......Mondeo Estate & Elddis Avanté 505 (Tobago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA28Pilot Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 It is a 2003. There is no doubt about that. We have the original bill of sale, the documentation and the CRiS. All state 2003. The nose weight is stated as 75kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smino0_1 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 incidently what car do you have? 65 volvo geartronic se nav, 2016 buccaneer cruiser, 2017 buccaneer commadore, 2018 swift kon-tiki 669 auto, 2015 range rover 3. 0 sdv6 autobiography dynamic auto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_B Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 It is a 2003. There is no doubt about that. We have the original bill of sale, the documentation and the CRiS. All state 2003. The nose weight is stated as 75kg This will be when first registered and isn't a problem but if you want the relevant information for your caravan check the Elddis brochure archive, incidentally as far as I'm aware 2001 was the last year of the 75 kg hitch weight and the last year your caravan was made, from 2002 Elddis used the 100kg hitch weight. Its important that you use the correct information for the caravan for things like tyre size and pressure, yours should be 195/70R14 95 and 42 pressure. The following year they reduced the profile and increased the pressure. Paul B . .......Mondeo Estate & Elddis Avanté 505 (Tobago) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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